tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post5440584669887852488..comments2024-03-29T06:52:40.745+00:00Comments on HMRC Is Shite: The Dash For CashKen Frosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13568488818950912374noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-13267788356667868332010-09-10T09:09:07.055+01:002010-09-10T09:09:07.055+01:0022:15, I can around as many times as you want beca...22:15, I can around as many times as you want because it is you that is stuck within HMRC not me. The only reason I understand what is going on is because I have a partner that works in a call center. They are following in the same steps as 8 September 2010 10:29 and doing something about getting out. They would prefer to stay in but there is not enough people prepared to stand up to the union.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-14591121953030764712010-09-09T22:15:13.692+01:002010-09-09T22:15:13.692+01:0023:57...
I say again. If it were that simple don...23:57...<br /><br />I say again. If it were that simple don't ya think someone would've done something about it by now?<br /><br />Do you wanna go round again?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-27501567037929132052010-09-08T10:29:19.434+01:002010-09-08T10:29:19.434+01:0012:50
Actually I now run my own Hypnotherapy pract...12:50<br />Actually I now run my own Hypnotherapy practice and can make upwards of £1000 per week. Have to agree with 13:52 stop whingeing and stand up for yourself. Re Tribunals have a look at your house insurance policy mine has £100K legal cover so I let the lawyers deal with the stress. As an ex Police Officer and senior manager in commerce I came from the real world and have gone back to it. OOOOOPS just broken my golden rule never to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-10323730609386015232010-09-07T23:57:52.719+01:002010-09-07T23:57:52.719+01:0022:25,
The union had no problem getting you out o...22:25,<br /><br />The union had no problem getting you out on strike over the pension issue and all that did was save the government paying you for a couple of days.<br /><br />They backed down on the last strike action about the working conditions when they came to an agreement with the management and nothing changed.<br /><br />I think the main reason it is not easy is none of you are prepared to tackle your union guys who seem to be in the pocket of management. <br /><br />And it is you that is paying the union fees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-23625281322073764062010-09-07T23:05:22.424+01:002010-09-07T23:05:22.424+01:00I love the great british public.I love the great british public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-25019412951656381552010-09-07T22:25:51.447+01:002010-09-07T22:25:51.447+01:0013:52...
If it were that simple don't ya thin...13:52...<br /><br />If it were that simple don't ya think someone would've done something about it by now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-22383624956731065122010-09-07T13:52:32.531+01:002010-09-07T13:52:32.531+01:00So what you are saying is that you would prefer th...So what you are saying is that you would prefer the lie and mislead tax payers than kick your union up the arse and get the problems dealt with. <br /><br />Well I am afraid that leaves you in the same category as your management. Weak and useless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-87989597309924228732010-09-07T12:50:34.477+01:002010-09-07T12:50:34.477+01:00"You do not have to lie to tax payers. Follow...<i>"You do not have to lie to tax payers. Follow the Civil Service code which clearly states that you have to be honest and truthful in all your dealings."</i><br /><br />The CS code is written by the same sort of muppets who are running HMRC; there are sufficient loopholes, vagueness of terminology and 'discretion' built in to enable management to wriggle out of nearly everything. The loudest sound in HMRC offices today is that of managers at all levels moving the goalposts.<br /><br /><i>"If SM come after you with C&D then that is prima facie evidence for a Tribunal"</i><br /><br />And then you have to go through weeks, months or years of stress and dislocation before the case comes up, and with absolutely no certainty that you will win; or, if you do win, that you'll have anything to show for it at the end except the warm glow of voluntary martyrdom. Try to live in the real world a bit.<br /><br /><i>"...the sense of freedom and joy of being out of HMRC is like winning the Lottery."</i><br /><br />Without the money, though, I suspect. Had any luck finding another job in the double-dip recession yet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-4290649483540952992010-09-07T11:43:37.968+01:002010-09-07T11:43:37.968+01:00You do not have to lie to tax payers. Follow the C...You do not have to lie to tax payers. Follow the Civil Service code which clearly states that you have to be honest and truthful in all your dealings. If SM come after you with C&D then that is prima facie evidence for a Tribunal (I know the Union wont back you) I did this and believe me the sense of freedom and joy of being out of HMRC is like winning the Lottery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-40909252494568756202010-09-07T10:19:38.009+01:002010-09-07T10:19:38.009+01:00Well done for catching her.Well done for catching her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-11196444643189483532010-09-07T00:17:09.887+01:002010-09-07T00:17:09.887+01:00I got dogs abuse from a woman who got caught tryin...I got dogs abuse from a woman who got caught trying to steal £3000 that should have gone to her employees so in my book you are all the same and not worth giving a toss about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-54730215258740519552010-09-07T00:11:44.716+01:002010-09-07T00:11:44.716+01:00I made a written complaint about a telephone opera...I made a written complaint about a telephone operator lying to me earlier this year and have not received so much as an acknowledgement. So in my book you are all the same and not worth giving a toss about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-4844277703344236802010-09-06T22:09:52.410+01:002010-09-06T22:09:52.410+01:0014:05 here:
And if we had refused to pass on the ...14:05 here:<br /><br /><i>And if we had refused to pass on the BS from management about the system working properly?<br /><br />C&D procedings for "insubordination" or similar. What would you have us do?</i><br /><br />Lying to tax payers is not acceptable and in my opinion makes you no better than the people running HMRC. I would expect you to be honest at all times and if this resulted in disciplinary being taken against you then that is where your union comes in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-80129656724406431262010-09-06T21:57:34.517+01:002010-09-06T21:57:34.517+01:00"I accept that this is not the fault of the f...<i>"I accept that this is not the fault of the front line staff but when they where told to tell people everything was working correctly when they knew full well it was not why should anyone have to distinguish between those who run HMRC and those who operate the systems?"</i><br /><br />And if we had refused to pass on the BS from management about the system working properly?<br /><br />C&D procedings for "insubordination" or similar. What would you have us do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-58494431929431162902010-09-06T14:05:44.412+01:002010-09-06T14:05:44.412+01:00I can very easily make the distinction between tho...I can very easily make the distinction between those who run HMRC and those who operate the system because I live with a call centre adviser. <br /><br />My comment relates directly to the people who defend HMRC and try and put blame on the taxpayer when things go wrong. The fact is that the tax code problem which seems to be at the centre of this latest problem is not down to the fact that you where given wrong information but down to the fact that your new system was not tested fully. <br /><br />I accept that this is not the fault of the front line staff but when they where told to tell people everything was working correctly when they knew full well it was not why should anyone have to distinguish between those who run HMRC and those who operate the systems?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-23971870002713369842010-09-06T13:31:26.487+01:002010-09-06T13:31:26.487+01:00If you can't (or won't) make the distincti...If you can't (or won't) make the distinction between those of us who have to operate the system and those who put it there and make us use it, and instead simply abuse everyone within HMRC, then I see little point in trying to explain further. <br /><br />It's not our fault that management - from Dame Witless down to the frontliners - combine the people skills of Caligula with the vision of Stevie Wonder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-41363945228385307392010-09-06T09:42:23.293+01:002010-09-06T09:42:23.293+01:0023:15 may well be right but lets face it your syst...23:15 may well be right but lets face it your systems have caused a lot of this problem. I know people whos details on your systems are correct but they still got incorrect codes. They noticed the problem and managed to get it corrected.<br /><br />There is also the fact that HMRC claimed there was not a problem when there clearly was.<br /><br />I stand by my comment that anyone defending HMRC at this time is a twat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-32556557827427294582010-09-06T00:49:55.239+01:002010-09-06T00:49:55.239+01:00@Anonymous at 00:32:
Anonymous at 23:15 is right;...@Anonymous at 00:32:<br /><br />Anonymous at 23:15 is right; the onus is on the employer and taxpayer to tell us of changes in circumstances. If neither of them bothers, how the hell are <i>we</i> supposed to know? Thought transference?<br /><br />You're like the twerp I dealt with a while back who wanted to know why he had had a big underpayment put in his code (which he claimed was going to cause him hardship; yeah, on a salary four times mine, sure!). When I told him it was because we'd only just found out that he'd had a company car for two years, he went ballistic and denied that he or his employer had any responsibility for passing the info to us.<br /><br />What would you have us do? Hang around outside people's houses to check? You'd be yabbing on about "Der Nanny State" if we did.<br /><br />Think a bit more before you go throwing words like "twat" around at us, you twonk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-11657439766722643402010-09-06T00:32:50.111+01:002010-09-06T00:32:50.111+01:00At the end of the day it's up to each person t...<i>At the end of the day it's up to each person to check and insure their codes and affairs are correct and the information used is correct.</i><br /><br />Lucky a lot of people don't get it right then isn't it or twats like you would be on jobseekers where you belong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-72718021334615135042010-09-05T23:15:53.995+01:002010-09-05T23:15:53.995+01:00I don't know what the fuss is all about,every ...I don't know what the fuss is all about,every year there are open cases,every year people underpay tax within PAYE.Taxpayers and employers don't always supply the information in time.peoples circumstances change taxable benefits change,allowances change, underpayment/overpayments arise.At the end of the day it's up to each person to check and insure their codes and affairs are correct and the information used is correct.<br />HMRC can't do it if we don't have up to date info submitted as soon as the changes happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-35762473302484590632010-09-04T18:31:11.734+01:002010-09-04T18:31:11.734+01:00Just read this on the BBC site:
A new computer sys...Just read this on the BBC site:<br /><i>A new computer system introduced by HMRC in 2009 has allowed more discrepancies to be identified.</i><br /><br />Is that the same computer system that caused the problems in the first place?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-83240289706913992912010-09-04T18:26:01.590+01:002010-09-04T18:26:01.590+01:00So - If you owe £299 you get away with it and if y...<i>So - If you owe £299 you get away with it and if you owe £301 you have to pay it all? So much for a fair taxation system.</i><br /><br />I suppose HMRC staff made sure none of them owe over £300 before setting the lmit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-79575237704793752292010-09-04T13:37:12.759+01:002010-09-04T13:37:12.759+01:00So - If you owe £299 you get away with it and if y...So - If you owe £299 you get away with it and if you owe £301 you have to pay it all? So much for a fair taxation system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-75910979647195653232010-09-04T10:57:54.806+01:002010-09-04T10:57:54.806+01:00The dash for cash is also gonna come becuase HMRC ...The dash for cash is also gonna come becuase HMRC are sloppy and cant do sums.<br />Nearly 1 and half million people are gonna have to cough up £1,400.00.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-74194715482897087292010-09-04T10:10:02.811+01:002010-09-04T10:10:02.811+01:00"I'm a member of CC staff and DID NOT kno..."I'm a member of CC staff and DID NOT know this!!!"<br /><br />That's because you do not need to know how the system works you need to just read the script on the screen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com