tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post2651364957192438396..comments2024-03-28T16:06:16.717+00:00Comments on HMRC Is Shite: A Question of Morality - Discuss and OpineKen Frosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13568488818950912374noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-12860382976669182652018-02-04T12:31:40.757+00:002018-02-04T12:31:40.757+00:00Reminds me of the bullying behaviour of another As...Reminds me of the bullying behaviour of another Assistant Director, Anthony Moss. Too many untouchables running amok in HMRC management... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-30445849431710676772018-02-04T12:24:19.806+00:002018-02-04T12:24:19.806+00:00My partner was relentlessly bullied by HMRC manage...My partner was relentlessly bullied by HMRC management. When they complained about it the bullying got worse and worse with HR and Senior Management joining in. They crush truth tellers. Even Jon Thompson was fully aware and failed to act. My partner's health, career and finances were ruined because of these thugs and was left suicidal. HMRC have no shame and saw fit to fabricate documents, smear, harass, anything to avoid accountability. Lowlife cowards. <br /><br />Things need to change in that place. Starting with making HMRC comply with the law. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-67804955974695590712018-02-04T10:04:05.883+00:002018-02-04T10:04:05.883+00:00That doesn't exonerate him from his bullying w...That doesn't exonerate him from his bullying ways...all the staff ask is a bit of humanity...that has long gone from HMRC management...lower grade staff are treated like scum now !! It's a fucking disgrace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-45791596059130985032018-02-03T16:01:53.248+00:002018-02-03T16:01:53.248+00:00Whoever GD is he's a pawn Obeying orders. What...Whoever GD is he's a pawn Obeying orders. What's this really about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-66743016062584477992018-02-02T22:44:12.171+00:002018-02-02T22:44:12.171+00:00Well known that GD's betters are fed up of him...Well known that GD's betters are fed up of him. Cost of cleaning up his messes getting too high. Rumours of a sacrificial lamb (or lambs) being offered in the assistant director ranks to cover up the current shit show.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-8309839886777354192017-07-02T09:32:35.913+01:002017-07-02T09:32:35.913+01:00Probably not....for that is the blueprint for virt...Probably not....for that is the blueprint for virtually ALL of the HMRC !!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16885306027157474368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-21582935638112957112017-07-01T20:28:19.752+01:002017-07-01T20:28:19.752+01:00To Anonymous 19:57 .....that sounds terribly fami...To Anonymous 19:57 .....that sounds terribly familiar. I wonder if I work with you ??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-51814899088624620722017-06-22T21:56:01.691+01:002017-06-22T21:56:01.691+01:00Just been told that Gerry Dorby was asked, at a SL...Just been told that Gerry Dorby was asked, at a SLT meeting today in Hull, a series of questions from staff (AOs and Band Os).<br /><br />One was, with the digitalisation of data gathering coming into effect soon, where will this leave AOs?<br /><br />His answer: they'll be farmed out to other departments.<br /><br />Another question: how does he see morale and well being going in Hull as it gets closer to closing?<br /><br />Answer: well, he apparently answered another question entirely, completely side stepping it, before adding "why would anyone complain, there's loads of work to do".<br /><br />He then said he had "no idea" where the regional office in Leeds will be, either exact location or time wise. "I promise, as soon as I know, you will"., he said.<br /><br />This is as rumours fly that Wellington Place will house the Leeds staff (and what's left of Hull;s) from 2019. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-50323568250387358032017-06-21T13:42:40.979+01:002017-06-21T13:42:40.979+01:00Misconduct in Public Office contrary to common ...Misconduct in Public Office contrary to common law ? In a democratic society governed by the law, the system must never allow civil servants to be above the law. People in positions of power are aware of various issues within this rotten discredit tax department - is it not time for them to step up to the plate with investigation and reform ? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-21180080467510798942017-06-21T12:26:27.702+01:002017-06-21T12:26:27.702+01:00Apologies for errors, its hot!Apologies for errors, its hot!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-83135166706165409382017-06-21T12:24:45.600+01:002017-06-21T12:24:45.600+01:00There is no smoke without fire, and you certainly ...There is no smoke without fire, and you certainly don't need a degree in rocket science to work out that many laws, both civil and criminal, have been broken across the diverse activities of HMRC.<br />It can be proven categorically that officialdom is aware of this up to parliamentary level.<br />Notwithstanding the sheer waste of public money undertaken by HMRC wrt I.T., estates, sub-contracting or useless running of e.g. HR, training or learning facilitation, vehicle fleet, shredding, post and call centre work.<br />The whole picture is one of wanton maladministration, collective and systemic abuse and breaking of laws.<br /><br />So, to repeat the oft reaised question, why has this been allowed to continue for overe a decade?<br /><br />BTW, conspiracy is defined thus..."...a secret plan made by two or more people to do something that is harmful or illegal..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-82896788859852501872017-06-21T09:59:06.806+01:002017-06-21T09:59:06.806+01:00People now retired, enjoying their generous tax pa...People now retired, enjoying their generous tax payer funded pensions for their 'service', may well have been excused by senior management for their criminal offending and inhumane treatment (clue: senior management have no right to rule on the law), but they are guilty in the eyes of the law and the public. Don't know how these lying nasty cowardly insecure individuals sleep at night knowing what they have done to people. They must be deluded or psychopaths. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-38896321601407025052017-06-21T09:47:13.199+01:002017-06-21T09:47:13.199+01:00Not censored, but was sitting in the spam tray for...Not censored, but was sitting in the spam tray for some reason. Have "unspammed" it.Ken Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13568488818950912374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-76744800263080076802017-06-21T09:46:50.071+01:002017-06-21T09:46:50.071+01:00Kudos to @ 21:45 20 June for their courage in spea...Kudos to @ 21:45 20 June for their courage in speaking out. We live in a democracy (something that's perhaps conveniently forgotten by the senior management?) and its the duty of every public servant to speak out regarding corruption. It comes down to morals. This organisation collects public money, by the force of law, and would probably purport to be acting with integrity in the common good, and yet many victims (and other educated persons) know full well that this vicious monster has perpetrated unlawful, immoral, unethical and, yes, even violent, acts against people including their own staff....this does have knock on effects to public confidence and recruitment...somebody needs to get a grip of this situation...but in reality nothing will change. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-55726016852945788532017-06-20T21:45:56.390+01:002017-06-20T21:45:56.390+01:00Not sure if my post has been censored?
Maybe it ha...Not sure if my post has been censored?<br />Maybe it has - and maybe as a serving officer of HMRC it is for my own good.<br />Suffice to say that among the working grades there is a mixed atmosphere of disillusionment, despair, anger & apathy. HMRC can have as many awards nights, Simply Thanks awards etc as it likes......it has a long way to go to come back from this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-35201773554725294592017-06-20T21:10:08.800+01:002017-06-20T21:10:08.800+01:00@19.17 - I recognise this situation and you have m...@19.17 - I recognise this situation and you have my sympathies. IT has been shit now for many years. I went through a terrible time in 2013/14. Most of the protagonists havery moved on to bigger and better things. That says it all. There are 2 Grade 7'so who I hope to get even with some day. I still see the attached the thought of it. No internal process could get to them. I tried Freedom of Information Act/ Grievance Procedures and I now deeply regret the fact that I didn't haul their sorry arsed before the Employment Tribunal. I didn't do it owing to cost & family advice that advocated letting it go as they had moved. I am angry with myself but that pales into insignificance to what I feel should I encounter these 2 arse holes again. One of them may still go higher up the rankeys. a nastier,devious, bullying, insecure arse licker have I ever had the misfortune to come up against in 30 years of service. It is weird how anger serves as a motivator.....and I do intend to get even Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-64679104859840883602017-06-20T20:52:52.644+01:002017-06-20T20:52:52.644+01:00If they allow criminal offence involving a manager...If they allow criminal offence involving a manager and a third party to go un-investigated, and unpunished, then we you know this is a corrupt place with too many cowardly shit bags with too much 'power' Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-58841686671051706882017-06-20T19:57:12.638+01:002017-06-20T19:57:12.638+01:00Our current chain of command...1.psychotic uber bu...Our current chain of command...1.psychotic uber bully...2.two faced mini bully....3.petrified manager who has no balls so then bullys the managers he has 4.our direct manager is just an imbecile who has no people skills whatsoever and should have been let go years ago.......and so the shit lands on our desks where we get the blame and are told to work out how to make things better...or we will burn in the fire of hell.<br />A fucking hell hole of a place.....bastards !!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16885306027157474368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-50442074000641731672017-06-20T19:17:49.287+01:002017-06-20T19:17:49.287+01:00Problem is with the way upwards via 'competenc...Problem is with the way upwards via 'competencies' is that instead of starting each day with the objective of working through your caseload as efficiently as you are able to , you have some characters ( and they are not hard to spot) who arrive thinking ' right, I need more competencies for those vacancies I might go for' and if possible mould their each day to achieve this aim. <br /><br />So instead of working they may attend a Health Awareness Yoga Class, push a trolly around flogging cakes for charity,find something to raise a 3c about or invent a non-issue to call a long meeting about.<br /><br />If from this charade of time misuse they are able to weave a fable that will improve or expand their competencies, then the day has been a success without too much effort.<br /><br />This has been rife for the past 10 years meaning that the rot is set in too far to be treatable.Many of those in positions of influence have climbed the ladder by this artful but legitimate method.<br /><br />The worst case scenario of all for humble honest working staff is when you have a clique of these characters who as well as being crafty devils are also full scale abhorrent.<br /><br />I know of a floor in a city centre HMRC building where by chance those with power and with direct daily contact with the workers were the worst of the worst. Workers were given unachievable targets, were not properly trained, the rules changed daily and were often backfitted - and when at the end of the day they hadn't achieved their goals, had to report to a senior figure and explain why.<br /><br />Some were told ( illegally and incorrectly) that they may be sacked - this just to frighten them to push for that extra stat. A member of staff once got to her feet, went to the window and sobbed, some with serious illness were treated with humiliating disrespect. <br /><br />Worst of all, at the end of the day the buckets of pigswill that were part of this dominion obtained varying levels of promotion. They have all now gone and I am told it is now a reasonably content floor. <br /><br />There are however many bitter people who have not forgotten how they were treated for other peoples gain and if any members of this dominion meet misfortune many good decent people will see fit to gather and enjoy Vealed Sweetbread followed by Spiced Bresse Duck, Grand Marnier Souffle, and all accompanied by a few bottles of Trebbiani De Abruzzo. They can all then gleefully rise to their feet as a toast is proposed to wish the worst to the cowardly,bullying,lying,foetid termites who needlessly made their lives so unpleasant for a significant period of time. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-30186308605337437492017-06-20T09:43:17.979+01:002017-06-20T09:43:17.979+01:00True. True. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-8457929335207293342017-06-20T09:40:11.093+01:002017-06-20T09:40:11.093+01:00HMRC - A Question of Morality - My View - Tax rate...HMRC - A Question of Morality - My View - Tax rates and government expenditure are a political issue which obviously have a moral element to them. The collection of tax by HMRC is not a moral issue. HMRC and their senior management allow a culture of cover-ups, dishonesty, bonuses and gongs for failure, treat staff to away days at football club, punish the honest and reward bullies. The public should always be on guard and have a healthy suspicion of HMRC in their dealings with them, and always remember how HMRC themselves behave and don't ever allow those people to claim to be morally superior to you. The culture is one of pure filth and corruption.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-88610927011074124192017-06-20T08:37:38.525+01:002017-06-20T08:37:38.525+01:00Are they moral guardians? No, many of them have si...Are they moral guardians? No, many of them have similar characteristics to criminal abusers. As the above commenter says they deploy tactics of divide and rule. They have hatred of anyone who has morals. Look up the word psychopaths and you will find this applies to some of the evil, violent scumbags. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-40236092306234512322017-06-19T21:31:58.930+01:002017-06-19T21:31:58.930+01:00Nail on the head 20.46!Nail on the head 20.46!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-55459102983751503162017-06-19T20:46:34.456+01:002017-06-19T20:46:34.456+01:00It is management by fear and divide and rule. I...It is management by fear and divide and rule. I'm only a few years off retirement. Older workers either jump ship early or tough it out.Younger workers with children/mortgages are in no position. Retention of staff may become a problem in the next few years as the race to the bottom and Regional Centres throws HMRC to the market. I agree about the effectiveness of the unions not being the answer. However, the ingrained culture of pacesetter/lean, unrealistic targets, PMR, competency based promotions which make it look like a poor man's The Apprentice. Promotions that mean signing up to worse terms & conditions.The dead hand of the Cabinet Office who in collusion with Price Waterhouse/ other consultants impose their will via poor Excom puppets.What on earth was Lin Homer good for.? It'seems depressing. Unless HMRC are exposed in the courts or through quality investigative journalism I cannot see it getting better!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29600742611858461.post-31639791013689279242017-06-19T20:27:20.007+01:002017-06-19T20:27:20.007+01:00PCS are part of the problem at HMRC. They are eith...PCS are part of the problem at HMRC. They are either thick or turning a blind eye as to the scale of problems within HMRC. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com