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Wednesday, 30 July 2008
A Series of Fuck Ups
Accounting Web published this summary of recent fuck ups by HMRC, as witnessed front line by real people trying to work with the mess that is HMRC.
Here is the piece in full:
"VAT – part of the overhaul?
Gavin reports that after HMRC updated the online vat registration yesterday it decided to wipe any un-submitted application as of 22/7/2008. This was confirmed by helpline staff he called this morning.
He says that he "was a bit disappointed as I will have to enter all the data again. There was no warning on the log in screen to the system so I am not sure how I was supposed to know this was happening."
Tax refunds – new system, new delays?
Following HMRC's recent announcement that no tax refunds would be paid unless full bank details are included on the SA return, accountants might have expected that the refund would be forthcoming if all the details were complete. Not so it seems...
Lee reports that if you submit a client's 2007/2008 Tax Return online that shows a refund and the taxpayer is dealt with by the Chapel Wharf Expat team, the tax refund will not automatically be paid to the client's bank account. Apparently a new policy in place for 2007/2008 means that staff are instructed to manually check/issue the tax refund into the clients bank account.
He says that having submitted a client's Tax Return online on 21 July 2008, he questioned how long his client would have to wait and was informed that they are currently up to the end of June submissions. There is already a three week delay and we have not got to the busiest time of the year!
One team member indicated this morning that agents could write to HMRC to complain and gave an address in Bristol (The Repayment Security Team, AASNIU, HMRC, 101 Victoria Street, Bristol, BS1 6BG).
Says Lee: "This quite appalling state of affairs. Agents have not been told and we have angry clients whose money is being loaned to the Chancellor."
Agent authorisation, again
Peter wrote into Any Answers pointing out a range of problems, including
The database the Tax Office uses is different to the database the Online Agent Authorisation system uses.
The letter sent to my clients which has the code doesn't get posted until after HMRC send me a letter warning me that the code is about to expire. HMRC leave post in warehouses for three weeks before sending letters.
When I complained about this to HMRC they said the system works because the client gets the code before it expires! I pointed out to them that their concept of working is different to mine. I have been unable to effectively act for my clients while HMRC leave the letters in a warehouse.
He adds: Does anyone know why HMRC spell Middlesbrough incorrectly on the website? I was told they would correct it about four years ago but it is still wrong.
IT gremlins again: Self Assessment records mixed up
Earlier in the year agents details were mixed up, latest reports indicate that it might be prudent to double check your client SA records. Various members report names and addresses being mixed up.
The National Audit Office, in its latest report on HMRC's transformation programme remains remarkably upbeat with HMRC's IT performance.
Accountingweb's IT editor John Stokdyk finds this perplexing: He writes, "Taken at face value, the NAO report makes little allowance for the risks posed to the transformation programme by the stresses and strains already facing the department's current IT systems and change managers."..."
Bottom line, HMRC is in a farking mess!
Given that the above problems are being experienced by trained accounting professionals, one can only wonder at the problems being experienced by non accountants who don't know/understand the rules or the way round the "system".
Our "beloved" Prime Minister, who cobbled together the Revenue and Customs into the monstrosity known as HMRC is personally responsible for this. The only way out of this mess is for him to be removed from orifice ASAP, and for a complete restructuring (not Brown's badly thought through restructuring) or indeed demerger of HMRC.
Tax does have to be taxing.
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