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Friday, 9 March 2012

MP's To Examine HMRC's Legal Status

The Treasury subcommittee is worried about HMRC's accountability and transparency. As such it wants to conduct a detailed examination into HMRC's legal status.

The FT reports that MPs are concerned about the "tension" between HMRC's need for political independence and the public’s right for it to be accountable.

The subcommittee notes that because HMRC is not led by a government minister it means that “ministers are unable to bring about changes in HMRC even where they are clearly needed.”

Let us "hope" that ministers do not use this as an excuse to politicise HMRC.

The subcommittee was also less than impressed with HMRC’s approach to the “tax gap” – the difference between the amount of tax it thinks is owed and the amount it actually receives. The subcommittee was not convinced the process of calculating, publishing and publicising the tax gap was a sensible use of HMRC’s limited resources.

All very well, but the mess that HMRC finds itself in is as a direct result of the actions by politicians of various political hues over many years.

Tax does have to be taxing.

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  1. It's long overdue. HMRC has become a safehaven for cheats, liars, the incompetent.

  2. Was there anything that the committee was impressed with?

    Independent complaints body please, with full authority to demote, order retraining and fire all HMRC employees. Penalties to include loss of earnings, removing pension entitlements and banning someone from ever working for government again should they lie (on the balance of probabilities).

    Also, make it an offence for an HMRC employee to fail to report SUSPECTED misconduct of another HMRC employee, including sending out an incorrect demand for money, the penalty being automatic termination of employment and a ban from working for government.

    1. Crikey, that would leave us with no civil service!!!!

    2. What a twat. How about bankers sacked if they suspect tax evasion, accountants similarly, police sacked if they think speed cameras aren't fair - but still send out tickets -oh no, civil servants should be held to a much higher standard, cos the rewards are so massive......cock.

    3. I am an accountant, living in the real world.
      I can be fired at any time, someone just needs the evidence of any misdeed.
      If I were to lie to a client then I would be sacked. End of story.
      Were I to falsely claim money from a client then I would also be in trouble with the law, serious trouble.
      I have to report other people, on the basis of mere suspicion, so why shouldn’t it apply to others.
      I just want persons in HMRC to operate within my environment, acting legally, no double standards, accountability and responsibility part of the job.

    4. I'm no apologist for HMRC; I worked for them (including former IR) for more years than I care to think about and insofar as an organisation has guts, I hate theirs. However, mistakes can and will happen and incorrect demands etc will be issued. It's called life. Scoot, have you never made a mistake?

    5. I am not defending HMRC for one minute, but really, you have no clue how HMRC operate internally. You make it sound like you do but unless you actually work for them then you don't. Your "argument" is based entirely on biased opinion and hearsay. You have no evidence whatsoever.

    6. I could almost,almost mind you, convince myself that I haven't spent a good portion of my career looking at completely ficticious accounts prepared by accountants, on behalf of clients that have seemingly earnt under £30k in the last 4 or 5 years,(in total, mind you ), whilst living in extremely nice houses, driving very nice cars,and all the other trappings. When confronted with a paragon like Scoot,I feel sure that I am, in fact, unreasonably suspicious.

  3. Thank you Lin Homer for your comment.

  4. Nothings going to's all lip service...too many vested interests.

  5. Scoot sounds like a barrel of laughs doesn't he? He needs to join the real world.