HMRC Is Shite

HMRC Is Shite
Dedicated to the taxpayers of Britain, and the employees of Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HMRC), who have to endure the monumental shambles that is HMRC.

Saturday, 31 December 2016

Arise Sir Ken!

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53 comments:

  1. Happiness, happiness, the greatest gift that I posses
    I thank the Lord I've been blessed
    With more than my share of happiness
    To me this old world is a wonderful place
    And I'm just about the luckiest human in the whole human race
    I've got no silver and I've got no gold
    Just a whole lot of happiness in my soul

    Oh the Irony!

    HaHa Hartnett :} ROFL

    Brilliant for Ken and a real definition for the word Scally?

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  2. HMRC honours a bit thin on the ground this year. Has somebody twigged that they're shite?

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    1. There is a gong for somebody described as a 'Head of Customer Services'. Does she have to hand it back if there's another Wooden Spoon for HMRC?

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    2. Sarah Pearson MBE - allegedly rewarded for 'services to taxpayers'. All in the year in which HMRC were panned for their shocking 'customer service'. The irony shows HMRC's contempt for the little taxpayers. HMRC = Specialists in failure and specialists in rewarding failure. Pathetic bunch.

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    3. Should it really have taken this long to twig? More than that they are corrupt cowardly little bullies.

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  3. Looking at the HMRC organisation chart, there are now a mind-boggling 73 'Directors' (and counting...) plus the 10 on ExCom and the two top boys. In a reducing and more efficient department (cough). You really couldn't make it up. Disgraceful.

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    1. Is their hair all done by the same gardener?

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    2. I wonder what huge salaries these so-called 'HMRC Directors' draw? It is not value for money and its this kind of waste that gives hard working public servants a bad name.

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  4. Don't forget that despite HMRC's website promoting all the staff who have been given gongs a lot of the staff will have been rewarded for other work (say work in the local community). They just happen to be employed by HMC&E and IR.

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    1. They should ONLY get an award if they're doing something else above and beyond which is of wider community benefit. The reward for a year's work (even in somewhere as shite as HMRC) is a year's salary. End of.

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  5. Congratulations to Andy Murray and Jessica Ennis-Hill who exemplify what the honours system SHOULD be all about. However, when deserving people with great integrity such as cancer campaigner and consumer champion Lynn Faulds Wood feel they have to turn down an MBE it suggests the honours system is morally bankrupt. The mere mention of HMRC, an immoral, brutal & discredited failing organisation, anywhere near the honours list just makes the while thing look totally corrupt.

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    1. Corrupt? Do any outside bodies actually audit the expenses claimed for by HMRC staff? What about arrangements such as allowing some staff to keep HMRC vehicles at home and not pay company car tax like the rest of us? If anyone remembers The Daily Telegraph exposing MPs expenses claims, perhaps a little look at HMRC is now needed..........

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    2. I knew of an HMRC employee who was working in say Location A, which was closing, and HMRC told them they were being redeployed to Location B a mere 20 miles down the road. Employee told them they couldn't travel on the dubious basis it was beyond reasonable travel and got paid off around £100k. The then former employee obtained alternative employment in the same town as location B - you couldn't make up such a misuse of public funds. I'm sorry, but public services are crying out for proper funding and it all seems too dodgy for my liking. If the media were to look at HMRC they would find lots in the public interest. Go for it!!!!!!!

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    3. A pay off of £100k from HMRC on the basis of allegedly being unable travel 20 miles? Whether technically corrupt or not, it does not pass the sniff the test of the general public.

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    4. @18.58 Quite a large number of cars that officers take home, HMRC pays the appropriate rate of tax on them.The office to home use is necessary for business reasons and there is no personal use allowed. If you think this is being abused, report it-it's unfair on those that adhere to the law.

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    5. @21:04 Thank you for that. My concern is with those HMRC officers who are allegedly home based and then use HMRC vehicles for home to office travel claiming for fuel & car parking to attend an office and not paying company car tax. Obviously they do then claim for the journey home. For some staff, particularly part time workers, working only 2-3 days a week the home working status seems to have more advantage to the employee than to the department, it can't be right. Its an abuse that needs looking at.

      The cars are kept at their homes. No personal use allowed? Of course, but I wonder how this would be policed given the casual breaking of rules within HMRC. I think I will report it to my MP.

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    6. To the above if may educate you about the ways of HMRC. I reported criminality & misconduct to HMRC. They did not investigate. They covered up. They lied. Again and again. The criminal was protected from the scrutiny but funnily enough remained more than happy to draw a salary until they took a pension and pay off. I hardly think HMRC would have the ability to detect any abuse of home workers cars or even if they were sufficiently awake they probably wouldn't be bothered to do anything about it apart from maybe cover it up. Integrity has to be absolute; corruption is corruption.

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    7. Next time they fine you for being a day late with your tax return, ask them:- what are you doing to deal with corruption in HMRC?

      They don't like being asked questions. They believe they are above the law and try to frighten people. People must find the courage & confidence to stand up to these bullies when they exceed and/or abuse their powers.

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    8. HMRC criminals & bullies should be sacked not protected: why do HMRC senior management find that simple concept so difficult to understand? If HMRC senior management can not act with integrity they shouldn't be drawing huge money from the public payroll.

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    9. Wishful thinking I am afraid. HMRC deal with criminality & bullies selectively they ignore individuals for whom action would be inconvenient or uncomfortable. Its not objective and its not how the rule of law should operate.

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    10. £100k pay offs to staff offered the opportunity of redeployment within reasonable daily travel just 20 miles down the road. One word: Disgusting.

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    11. RE: the issue of misconduct within HMRC. They do have an Internal Governance department whose role is to police staff misconduct & criminality. They ought to be able to provide a degree of assurance but where the system fails is that some management failing to refer serious cases to them to investigate to protect their own or their 'facebook friend' colleagues, think of it as like misconduct on top of misconduct. Completely corrupt.

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    12. The majority of HMRC staff are decent and hard-working but are let down by a minority running riot sticking two fingers up to the rules & the law and indeed any sense of basic integrity. The problem is made worse by a culture within management which believes it has a perfect right to protect wrongdoers from appropriate scrutiny of their actions i.e. corruption. Sadly any organisation is only as strong as its weakest link. Come on Govt & IPCC get in there and clean up the rotten organisation.

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    13. It would seem there are a number of survivors of HMRC workplace abuse. If those vultures, and their apologists, who inflict suffering on HMRC co-workers were to face tougher criminal penalties, might it not act as a deterrent and bring back a little integrity???

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  6. HMRC rewarding their staff for just doing their jobs, very badly. Its the hard working taxpayers, who put up with their shoddy mismanagement, who should be honoured. We pay those people at HMRC, IF they were doing a reasonable job the only reward they should get is the salary we the public pay them. Does the word disgraceful really do it justice?

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    1. HMRC STAFF, note staff not chiefs, get nominated by external bodies for extra curricular charitable/community work, not "day to day" work.

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    2. What extra curricular work did Sarah Pearson do? The answer I am afraid is NONE. The fact is, without any sense of irony, HMRC nominate someone on the farcical basis of 'services to taxpayers' and in doing so crowd out the honours for serving people who volunteer in society. It all speaks to their morals, or rather lack of. A shameless, bullying, corrupt organisation.

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    3. HMRC and morals???? Hahahaha they have none

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  7. Perhaps the endless old hat that the public pay the staff of HMRC should stop -civil servants are not exempt from paying tax or NI despite what the press imply -during my 31 year as a tax inspector i collected c £53 000000 in tax to ostensibly pay for public services , mainly from organisations which could well afford it and paid their employees peanuts -not all civil servants are the kind of parasites this site suggests !

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    1. Agreed above.....it's total mismanagement at the very top that has turned this department into a complete shambles ...however there are far too many further down the line that have selfishly followed suit and shafted their fellow staff members....just part of the "me me me" society we have now.....shame on them

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    2. The whole organisation is rife with corruption. My partner worked at HMRC for decades and was forced out of their job due to their manager and an outsider committing criminal offence against them which senior people went above & beyond to corruptly cover up...remember that next time your tax calculations come back looking a bit dodgy from that violent mob...shame on them indeed.

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  8. What about Lin Homer DCB? Fourth highest honour available! What on earth must she know. That is a farkin disgrace.

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  9. Any public organisation which has allowed criminal offences by their own staff to go completely unchecked e.g. HM Revenue & Customs, should be automatically barred for at least 10 years from nominating anyone for the honours system. To ensure staff voluntary working in the community are not disadvantaged by their corrupt employer they could still be nominated by the community or charity they work for.

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    1. Further to the above - any organisation that allows criminal offences by their own staff to go completely unchecked & unpunished is unfit to be enforcing the tax laws or let near confidential data or dealing with the law abiding public. Its about time HMRC referred themselves to the IPCC so that that crime & other misconduct can be investigated independently.

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  10. How about "Awards for Dishonour at Hmrc", aka a public naming & shaming of the incompetent, corrupt & criminal?

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    1. Names please.......

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    2. If you're taking a public salary and are up to no good then its only right that your misconduct is exposed to the public who pay your wages. HMRC misconduct and corruption is in the public interest.

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    3. Oh, yes, now what was their name?

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    4. Lin Homer may have been one?

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    5. Didn't Dave Hartnett break the law and then just be let off?

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    6. Yep-Hart nett discussed one set of taxpayers business with another taxpayer. Broke the Official Secrets Act which I believe he would have signed. Dreadful man-totally dreadful

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    7. And the 2017 Award goes to.... the HMRC senior leadership team for overseeing a brutal bullying regime.

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  11. The only honour for any public servant is the opportunity to serve the public. For most HMRC senior management that opportunity is not enough for them. Gongs should be reserved for citizens, including public servants, who do something significant for charitable or community good, and those who perform their roles to such a successful standard they act as a positive role model for others.

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    1. Spot on. With their track record of absolutely disgusting and degrading treatment of people Hmrc should be automatically banned from receiving Honours simply for collecting a wage.

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  12. Maybe Ruth Owen HMRC's Head of Customer Service will be in line for an Honour next time around. According to her official twitter she completed her tax return on Boxing Day with the #innerpeace. Sounds either very sad or a patronising PR stunt.

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    1. PR stunt. Rhyming slang?

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    2. Isn't she an employee of HMRC, and therefore on PAYE?

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    3. Don't some senior civil servants get paid through personal service companies to mitigate their liability to income tax?

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    4. The old IR35 system. I believe Harnett was paid this way, although I think he denied this. Unless she is claiming back gift aid on charitable contributions, declaring a second income or is renting out a house, why else would she be making a return as an employee?

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    5. Or maybe she was just saying she was to promote the tax return deadline? But no that would be dishonest, surely not from a civil servant, so I believe her.

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    6. RE: #innerpeace: Maybe HMRC staff who have been victim to the appalling bullying & corrupt cover-up culture would find 'innerpeace' to actually see the offenders investigated and facing appropriate criminal & civil sanctions. Don't know how the guilty sleep at night.

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    7. At the end of the day very senior people at Hmrc are aware of the brutal bullying. The endorsement and denial of such a vile regime happened under Lin Homer & has continued under Jon Thompsom, they are a disgrace.

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  13. They have proven themselves to be a dishonest tax authority. If you need to speak with them about your tax best advice is to record every interaction as they have a nasty habit of telling lies. As for their inclusion on the honours list, its a disgrace.

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