Now that Rachel is dishing out VAT discounts on kids' meals, I assume a task force will be set up in HMRC to produce reams of documents analysing exactly what a kid's meal is?
Good luck with that then!
Oh, and although Rachel trumpeted this, she hasn't been so vocal about plans to whack 20% on various airport charges over the summertime!
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She could have also launched a full enquiry into all the HMRC misconduct frequently discussed in this parish.
ReplyDeleteIt's a scandal ridden organisation. We're hearing stories of their own staff being seriously mistreated and abused - lives being ruined as casually as chucking garbage in the bin. How one treats their own is a mark of how they regard wider society. If anyone wants to talk, please reach out. We will expose as much as possible about what's been going on....and will push with everything we've got to bring wrongdoers to justice. We don't get if they're SOs, Grades 6 or 7 or higher. You will never walk alone
DeleteI'd love to reach out.
DeleteHow do I contact you and your organisation.
Thanks.
Please can you provide a brief overview of your case (no names or other identifying details at this stage). We'll then take it from there. Thanks
Delete@11:21 on 24 May '26
DeleteWhen I worked as a field force officer in the east of England there was a colleague in Norfolk who thought he was living out a cross between the wolf of wall street, the flying squad and MO19 in real time. He's still in the role. The culture that the sad case numpty perpetuates needs to be looked into please
@11:21.
ReplyDeleteThe case I'm thinking about is the manipulation of official statistics for personal advancement.
Rupert Lowe had another go at them, not that they give a shit, just waffle and throw in a few buzzwords.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.theguardian.com/money/2026/may/25/hmrc-inheritance-tax-iht-rebate-refund-delay-late
@11:21 the issue i would like exposed is compliance staff - namely VAT compliance - being allowed to make up subjective figures to for 'future revenue benefit' with the most nebulous justification. The 'FRB' figure is then claimed as yield collected when it's no such thing. Even worse, the numerous VAT visiting officers doing this then use it as evidence to get promoted or otherwise throw their weight around. The office of national statistics would be shocked if they knew the extent of this and the number of decades its been going on. Some no doubt feel under pressure to play this game to stop the bullying management putting them on a performance improvement plan. It's an organisation where honesty and hard work gets you nowhere
ReplyDelete@14:01.
DeleteFRB is recorded by all compliance staff, not just VAT.
They have to record it as part of their job, it is not optional.
The National Audit Office have made various suggestions as to how FRB is recorded which have been adopted by HMRC.
You're welcome.
The subjective recording of FRB is totally corrupt. Assume you complied with it without comment. Silence is complicity.
Delete@10:05.
DeleteRecording FRB is part of a compliance officer's job.
Doing the job you are paid to do is hardly complicity in something awful.
I am sure many comments have been passed.
@10:33
DeleteDo you actually work at HMRC? What's your personal view on this worrying matter?
On a different issue, has management done anything to address the issues with employee behaviour?
@10:05 Identify the corruption. Gather the evidence. Prosecute. Convict. Lock them up.
DeleteYes. I don't have 'personal views', I'm a good little yes person and do as I'm told. Suits me to never have to think. Ditto your other question, what behaviour? I turn a blind eye
Delete@12:54.
DeleteJust to let you know - here in the UK you can only prosecute, convict and lock up people if they've broken a law.
You're welcome.
@15:21 on 26 May 2026
DeleteReluctant to ask as sure you're just rage baiting, but anyhow, assuming you do agree then that where HMRC staff have broken the law they should be subject to the rule of law? That means investigations must happen and the evidence followed to a just conclusion - ie. stop the cover ups!!!
@17:51.
DeleteI agree entirely that HMRC staff who have broken the law should receive the appropriate punishment.
However, the problem I have is that this site is littered with allegations of HMRC law-breaking as an everyday occurrence but nobody appears to either produce any evidence or do anything about it.
I find this quite baffling.
You can dislike HMRC intensely as the deeply-flawed, even incompetent, organisation that it is without claiming that all of it's staff are violent rapists or whatever. This hyperbole undermines the credibility of this site.
@12:24.
ReplyDeleteI have no personal view on a matter that I don't find worrying.
Everybody is fully aware that FRB is not real money at the point at which it is recorded. It is used by the Exchequer for future resource allocation and fiscal forecasting, not to overthrow democracy.
On your different issue - dunno, what are the issues with employee behaviour?
Thanks for your replies. Just confirming that you do actually work for HMRC?
Delete@16:06.
DeleteNo.
Happily retired.
@16:06 26 May 2026
DeleteHe doesn't work for HMRC. Bit of a 'walter' 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤣🤣🤣
@21:00.
DeletePlease enlighten us with your views on FRB, oh Great One.
A nation is holding it's breath.
@12:54 That's a novel idea. Alas, it's just a dream that we get a clean HMRC. Too much criminality goes unchecked and sackings for misconduct are vanishingly low.
ReplyDelete@15:21.
DeleteCan you give us examples of the criminality which goes unchecked?
Perhaps you could pass the details onto 'Exposing the Corrupt' so that their professional organisation can forensically investigate your allegations.
Let me offer a more balanced view. I worked in management roles at HMRC (and formerly Inland Revenue) for a very long time. Whilst I met some bright, decent and kind colleagues, the department increasingly attracted some of the nastiest people you will meet in your life who, all too often, cross the line into inappropriate behaviour. Where I do agree is about how misconduct goes unaddressed and very corrupt people stay in post. Not just serial bullies (although they need to be healthy with harshly) but also very serious offences. A guy in Watford was running a 'shadow book 27' (district levy costs) and pocketing vulnerable taxpayers cash. Not only did he not get shown the inside of a prison cell (as he should have done) but he also kept his job without any consequences. The corruption runs deep.
Delete@13:33.
ReplyDeleteA very serious question.
I assume the "guy in Watford" went through the internal investigation process.
On that basis did you consider reporting him to the IOPC?
If not, why not?
Investigating authorities are not clairvoyant, they need a heads-up, but you seem remarkably uninterested in getting involved. Much easier to make wild allegations on here.
He did go through an investigation process, one which essentially found him 'guilty as charged' ie. R
Deleterunning a bk27 fraud. His only punishment was a written warning. He wasn't referred for criminal prosecution and didn't even get dismissed. The department is rotten to the core.
I don't believe you.
DeleteAny staff member of HMRC caught diverting taxpayer money to their own back pocket would be automatically sacked and prosecuted.
If you insist that your story is true then why didn't you refer the matter to the IOPC?
@12:12 30 May 2026
DeleteYour beliefs are very different to the facts.
The facts are that an HMRC collector was caught running a 'shadow book 27' and pocketing the costs. He did get a written warning. But he wasn't neither sacked nor prosecuted. You're right to think he should have been and, as you say, automatically. The facts are he was not. Corruption at its finest.
@10:15.
DeleteYou're ignoring my question.
Have you referred the matter to the IOPC or taken any other action?
If not why not?
@12:49 This appears to be a misconduct situation that HMRC covered up a long time ago. Just curious about whether you think the IOPC would do anything other than rubber stamp the cover up at this late stage?
Delete@16:30.
DeleteAll sorts of issues here.
I don't know if you've ever worked for HMRC or it's predecessor departments but stealing tax money is the ultimate no-no, punishable by immediate dismissal and criminal prosecution. Yes I know you've got the posters on here who give it the "everyone in HMRC is a corrupt, retarded, overweight, communist, sex offender" but I'm trying to be serious just for the moment.
There's also the issue of why the poster hasn't done anything with his "evidence" which he refuses, as usual, to explain.
You imply that the IOPC would be complicit in a cover-up if the matter were referred to them - I'd be interested to know why you think that would be the case. Are all IOPC staff corrupt, retarded, overweight, communist, sex offenders as well?
I did think about offering to refer the matter to the IOPC on the posters behalf as he obviously can't be arsed to make the effort. Unfortunately he would have to give me written permission which would mean identifying himself to me. I think we can safely assume that he's not going to do that anytime soon.
So there we have it - a wild allegation going absolutely nowhere.
Plus ca change.