Regarding this comment:
"Breaking News: A current HMRC Fraud Investigator has left a review on Glassdoor alleging bullying, misogyny and assaults on female staff. "
Please can someone send me the link to the allegation on Glassdoor, I can't find it.
Thanks.
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Here is the link to Glassdoor:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Reviews/Employee-Review-HM-Revenue-and-Customs-RVW83848339.htm
Looks like bullying and lawbreaking inside HMRC remains a problem.
HMRC replied saying they 'are concerned'. The truth is though, senior management have been involved in covering up serious misconduct.
At the time of writing her damming report into the toxic culture at HMRC, Laura Whyte, a former HR Director at The John Lewis Partnership, suggested she would return and follow up later that year (2019) or the next year (2020). Intriguingly, there is no evidence of a follow up report - I wonder why?
The lack of a follow up would imply HMRC blocked a further report to limit reputational damage...just like in the post office scandal, victims will unite and be on to those scumbags for justice.
A vile, out of control, abusive organisation...
Although I have no doubt that this post will attract the usual "troll, blah, blah, blah..." tosh this is a genuine question.
DeleteWhy don't all the people on here who claim to have been bullied by HMRC to the point of being seriously mentally damaged, or be victims of other criminal activity by HMRC, get together, pool your evidence and submit it to the police, friendly media, your MPs, the Public Accounts Committee, etc.
I'm sure that Ken could act as some kind of liaison and the likes of GB News or Talk TV would love that kind of 'scoop'.
Or alternatively you could just spend the next 10 years wittering away on a niche website.
As I said, a genuine question/suggestion.
Q. What sort of person dismisses bullying and assaults at as 'wittering away'?
DeleteA. A truly vile one
Charlotte Giffin at the daily telegraph has been looking into HMRC. I would suggest she would be interested in talking to all the people who have suffered at the hands of hmrc
Delete20 February 2024 @ 21.02.
DeleteYet another masterclass in deflection. I have not "dismissed" bullying and assaults at all. I have queried, however, the motivation of those on here who have complained for years that HMRC have deliberately and maliciously destroyed the lives of themselves, their wives and children and yet somehow, mysteriously, never quite get around to doing anything about it.
@11:17
DeleteI did something about it, I was awarded compensation paid for by the TAXPAYER.
I now want the culprits punished for their misconduct. So far, to the only consequences of their abuse have been on me and the taxpayer.
@11.59.
DeleteYou don't go to an Employment Tribunal over the kind of criminal behaviour that you have alleged on here over the years.
You take your evidence to the police so that they can, if appropriate, initiate criminal action against the perpetrators. You appear to have been less than successful at this.
20 February @20:27
DeleteDan Wootton, until recently of GB News, did yesterday mention HMRC in a post on X (formerly Twitter), stating they are one of the organisations that have gone 'rogue'.
Some of the media are waking up to how out of control HMRC have become. It would be good if they could have investigate the bullying and assaults.
Thank you for bringing this to light on your brilliant site.
ReplyDeleteI feel sick to the pit of my stomach reading about those alleged assaults on female staff at HMRC. Scumbags
I hope MPs are aware of what's going on at HMRC
I've sent an email to MP urging action against HMRC and to look into the allegations. It is clear we can't trust HMRC to police themselves and someone must step in to safeguard victims.
DeleteAnyone affected by workplace bullying at HMRC, please ignore the haters and the apologists.
ReplyDeleteI found this site back in 2020, during the lockdown, at a time when memories of being bullied were making me suicidal. Knowing that I was not the only victim truly saved my life.
Thank you Ken and survivors
So did l . It's so distressing but ruins your life Ken Frost helped my mental health l was like you what's the point living all your so called friends doing nothing
DeleteBullied sexually harassed by boss who encouraged disrespectful remarks. The worst place to work bullies no empathy. I really hope this is published on the news like post office scandal
ReplyDeleteWhat I am reading here is that there are criminals, employed by HMRC and committing sexual offences at work, roaming free when they should be in prison.
DeleteHow come HR and management are seemingly oblivious to all the wrongdoing at HMRC? Are their cover up operators 'doing their thing'?
The lesson to taxpayers is, don't trust HMRC.
All true sexual harassment bullying disrespect. Boss sexual harassed me encouraged other team members to join in. One sad sad man who now works for Aware Defeat Depression that he CAUSED.
ReplyDeleteKnow all about him
DeleteThat's a most appalling crime, I hope you have been professionally supported.
DeleteAs a victim of HMRC abuse as an employee, I know how scary it is blowing the whistle on the bullying filth.
Please go to the police if you feel able to, or at least contact reputable media organisations to make sure HMRC and its abusive culture is exposed.
Sorry to be repetitive but this is really, really important. If your boss sexually harassed you AND encouraged others to join in then this is a serious criminal offence.
DeleteDo not just type about it on a website.
REPORT IT TO THE POLICE IMMEDIATELY!!!
Ex HMRC employee here. I witnessed horrific bullying conducted by senior management down, and even I am shocked to see allegations of serious sexual offences perpetrated by HMRC staff who encouraged other HMRC staff to 'join in'.
ReplyDeleteI wholeheartedly agree with comments made by anonymous posters at 13:04 and 13:16 today, please report this to the police ASAP.
You can reach out for support from your GP and, especially out of hours, other organisations who provide safe help:
Samaritans 116 123
Rape Crisis England and Wales (for victims of rape and sexual abuse) 0808 500 2222
The Survivors Trust 0808 801 0818
I am now an ex employee for many years. I left sick many years ago. In those days you wouldn't go to the police.Also no one stuck up for me because the boss doing it wrote their promotion reports.
DeleteIf all of this becomes public l will tell my story of the horrendous abuse of HMRC employees
Delete@17.19.
DeleteWhy wait for someone else to make HMRC's criminal behaviour public? Why don't you do it?
This is EXACTLY the problem. Loads and loads of (mainly vague) allegations with precisely nothing happening.
Why don't you people get together, pool your evidence and actually do something.
This deeply disturbing. Laura Whyte's report into the culture at HMRC basically warned that left unchecked its bullying culture would escalate to a more serious level. After all the casualties of HMRC's emotional violence over so many long years, here we are in 2024 with multiple allegations of serious criminality. Hopefully any HMRC staff suspected of the alleged crimes will be investigated, charged, remanded and put before the courts. Innocent unless proven guilty, but anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows there's something very 'off' at HMRC, as though it's rotten to its core
DeleteThey will get away with it . If noone supported you during the abuse you have no witnesses. When l got medically retired on health grounds the occupational health interviewing me tolde another woman wouldn't even leave the house. You are terrified of this mob.
DeleteI worked at HMRC, was bullied mercifully and stood up to them and called them out. Their retaliation was terrifying and unlawful. I live in fear of HMRC's thugs despite leaving many years ago
Delete@21:13
DeleteAnd still you never quite got round to going to the police.
Bizarre.
HMRC broke this person l don't find it bizarre at all. This person has suffered trauma.A lot of the post office workers still won't come forward .They are too traumatized to go through it all again.
DeleteWell he wasn't so traumatised that he couldn't go to an Employment Tribunal looking for cash compensation.
DeleteBut telling the police that HMRC was trying to kill him and destroy the lives of his wife and children was apparently too much of an effort.
I repeat - bizarre.
Interesting to see that the toxic, vile culture embedded during Lin Homer's tenure and which continue under Jon Thompson has sunk to a new low on Jim Harra's watch. Gravy train riders...
ReplyDeleteHmrc has been a horror show from inception back in 2005. was there ever really a golden era for that steaming pile of poo?
ReplyDeleteWhen I worked there in field force back in the late 00s there was another field force collector who is a really nasty piece of work...he boasted about how he enjoyed p***ing off taxpayers...on one occasion he drove his car into a taxpayers garage door and bragged about how he got away with it...he is still there working the same role today actually...beware taxpayers in the east of england.. #shouldhavebeensackedyearsago #wrong'un
It's been a cesspool from the 70s
DeleteIt didn't exist in the 70s.
DeleteInland Revenue did
DeleteI worked in VAT at HMRC. There was a pervert in the office who had a reputation for lecherous behaviour at office parties. We also had people in the office who tried to spread disease by smearing shit over toilet seats, walks, sinks, hand dryers, doors. It was like working in a mental asylum. Nothing surprises me with HMRC. I still have nightmares many years after resigning from the shit hole. The words utter scumbags seems too kind as a description for them. I'm mentally scared for life by them.
ReplyDeleteOne of my friends worked for the Inland Revenue back in the 1990s and was broken by his female manager's bullying. Fortunately, he made a full recovery and happily forged a new career away from the Revenue. He still talks about it now; many of his former colleagues never recovered from their own experiences of bullying and lost their lives from the stress caused: physical and mental illness, drug and alcohol addiction, suicide, you name it, the bullying caused a cascade of life changing horrors. The fact bullying got worse when HMRC was instituted, sounds absolutely awful. I do hope someone will out the alleged HMRC sex predator/s referred to in the Glassdoor review and pray they will be put before the law courts.
ReplyDeleteYou say that "many of his former colleagues" subsequently "lost their lives" as a direct result of Inland Revenue bullying.
DeleteThis is an incredibly serious allegation.
Can you please give us some greater detail. How many lost their lives. What complaints were made at the time. What was the result of those complaints. Did Coroners make any rulings or recommendations.
Allegations of this nature are far, far too serious for us all to just go tut, tut, shrug our shoulder and move on.
I believe every word. Some of the females in there dreadful bullies.When new people start they see mockery as normal and behave same way. I would equate HMRC to being in a prison where you join the bullies or be bullied.
DeleteI am so glad your friend moved on and had the strength. I did a couple more jobs after leaving HMRC but l was never the same person. I never trusted anyone again and avoided any friendships.
DeleteAs far as I can see nobody is saying that the allegations aren't true. The question is WTF are the 'victims' doing about it.
DeleteIn cases as serious as this typing on a niche website simply isn't enough.
I am one of the victims of HMRC workplace abuse. My lowest point was Easter weekend 2015 when I contemplated suicide. Although I went on to launch multiple businesses, all still thriving today, HMRC's psychological violence left its mark on me. I can relate to many of the above comments, and stand with anyone suffering from cowardly bullies at HMRC.
DeleteWe all stand with them
Delete.....so what are you going to do about it.
The tragic case of the scumbag Wayne Cousins is a reminder to all large public sector organisations of the need to properly vet employees at the beginning and throughout their service. Furthermore, allegations of bullying and sexual assault by HMRC staff should never be dismissed. HMRC needs to weed the department of every single wrong 'un - those miscreants are a danger not only to their colleagues, but also to the general public. It worries me, for example, that Field Force are not subject to an enhanced DBS check despite them going into people's premises and having contact with vulnerable people - a flagrant breach of their basic safeguarding responsibilities.
ReplyDeleteThe apologists for HMRC's vile culture are a BIG part of the problem. No doubt the lunatic will be along to excuse HMRC in 3, 2, 1...
3,2,1,0....heeeerres Johnny!
DeleteIt would be far easier for HMRC miscreants to be weeded out if their 'victims' reported the criminal activity to the police. But you'd rather type away on a niche website instead. Your choice but stop whining on about nothing happening
DBS checks take place at the recruitment stage.
As a VAT inspector I had to enter taxpayers' premises regularly and we were far more at risk from them than vice-versa. One colleague had his briefcase cut in two while protecting himself from a machete attack. Another had attack dog's set on him. Another was kidnapped, driven to a remote spot and abandoned (pre-mobile phones). Abuse and threats were commonplace.
It's not just a one-way street.
So what?
DeleteI was assaulted, verbally abused, attacked by dogs and even falsely imprisoned by a taxpayer inside their home while serving as an HMRC officer. It does indeed work both ways; on that note, important to say HMRC are weak at protecting staff and don't push hard enough to ensure criminals who attack staff are prosecuted.
However, as a civil servant committed to serving the public, I recognised that we have a duty to the general public. A BASIC DBS at the start of service only is not good enough.
If the public is to be protected by any sex offenders/violent offenders/paedophiles working at HMRC, they need an ENHANCED DBS (which will reveal investigations/intelligence/complaints as well as convictions and cautions) at the START of their service and ANNUALLY throughout.
HMRC's current vetting is insufficient and leaves the public at risk. Alarming that anyone would think a one-off check is good enough. Lessons must be learned across the public sector following the vile Wayne Couzens case.
Can we get back to what you have done/are doing to get the 'criminals' out of HMRC.
DeleteOr would you rather not talk about that?
I would like to point out this. You need witnesses to the abuse who bury their hands in the sand. I did have a person who was leaving department and promised me up to night before she would confirm abuse. The day she was leaving she leaned over to me and said sorry l can't do it he was the one arranged my leaving collection. Hopefully this explains a bit of the brick wall syndrome
DeleteBullying l think you will appreciate happens in plain sight. People even not very kind ones know wrong from right. What l don't understand is why some people get off on it or ignore it especially at work. I was brought up to t turn the other cheek my friend was brought up if he hits you hit him back harder. Your personality deamour is hard to chanc
DeleteHMRC does not do Enhanced DBS checks on the majority of staff.
DeleteMost have a Basic DBS check at the start of their career but no further checks are made.
How then is HMRC able to reassure the public that a sick criminal employee is not lurking inside the organisation and, therefore, a risk to the public?
It is deeply troubling that HMRC staff are not properly vetted, more so in the knowledge of bullying, misogyny and sexual assaults
DeleteI agree with last two comments. I worked for Inland Revenue from mid 70s. I take onboard abuse thrown at department from public. Two wrongs never make a right. I was a very young girl then and l always remember the uncomfortable vibe l got when starting. I remember an older person telling me 25 percent of employees end up in mental homes. I thought she was mad. But l understand now. Two wrongs don't make a right but l stand by Inland Revenue has a tendency to create bullies
ReplyDeleteThe thing is though that 25 percent of employees did not end up in mental homes. Or
Delete2.5 percent. Highly unlikely 0.25 percent.
So you were probably right in thinking that she was mad.
So many people working at HMRC have serious mental health problems caused by the vicious bullies who, via the hierarchical management structure, get to act out their sick fantasies on junior staff. This behaviour would not be tolerated in society at large - something Laura Whyte's report alluded to - but those sickos are welcomed with open arms such is the vile culture that starts at the very top.
DeleteI would encourage every decent citizen to write to their MP and newspaper editors and demand that any HMRC employees who have contact with the general public are subject to an urgent DBS check at the 'Enhanced' level. Lets identify scumbags with previous and kick them out of our public services. This is a serious issue that has been overlooked at best or, for fear of having to sack too many employees, deliberately avoided for too long. It's HMRC's next BIG scandal.
The clear allegation on Glassdoor is enough for HMRC to launch their own investigation - why haven't they?
ReplyDeleteLooks like they are demonstrating their ambivalent approach to complaints of bullying, misogyny and sexual assault.
Until HMRC beefs up its governance, it is not a safe place for anyone to work - females or males.
I was utterly violated by a female manager when I worked at HMRC. She was proper disturbed
ReplyDeleteHow did she violate you?What did she do?My manager used to make suggestive comments about my size.It was creepy and so sleazy .
DeleteGenuine question: does HMRC make employees mentally disturbed or are mentally disturbed people attracted to working for HMRC?
ReplyDeleteI'm intrigued...chicken or egg
Neither. You're hysterical.
DeleteGood question l was perfectly normal and happy when l joined. The longer you stay they feel entitled to treat you any way they want. It comes the disrespect from the top down. When my mother died district inspector came out to off er his condolences. In front of whole section asked me was l an orphan now?
ReplyDeleteThey open their mouths and say first thing that comes out of they know you won't answer back. So you either become as ignorant as them or leave before you become ill
ReplyDeleteHave there been any arrests in the 'glassdoor' case yet?
ReplyDeleteOnce the case garners more exposure, the floodgates will open.
I hope that this Glassdoor revelation is being investigated as a PRIORITY. After watching Sarah Everatt documentary if Couzens had of been charged after exposing himself at McDonalds this senseless murder could have been prevented
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely - if sick, coward Couzens had been dealt with for sex assaults and indecent exposure many years ago, he would never have got inside any police force.
DeleteBullies and fiends become emboldened when basically 'authorised' to carry on - that was my experience as a survivor of workplace bullying at HMRC.
You don't have any friends in HMRC l learned the hard way
DeleteYou should never ever socialise with them wish l could turn clock back and left years before l did. The longer you are there the worse bullying gets
There is no "Glassdoor revelation". Some bloke has made a very vague allegation under the cloak of anonymity.
DeleteHe then spends more time saying that the promotion system is unfair.
I wonder what his motivation is?
This is completely appalling. No woman or man should go to work and fear inappropriate behaviour or, worse still, sexual assaults. I'm surprised the HMRC CEO hasn't commented given the utmost serious nature of the allegations. And where are PCS union when you need them.
ReplyDeleteSo I have finally gone through all the hoops and registered with Glassdoor so that I can see the full details of the scandalous "Glassdoor revelation".
ReplyDeleteUnderwhelmed doesn't even come close. Vague, brief allegations of female staff being assaulted outside of work and "violence' (?) - needless to say absolutely no detail whatsoever. The complainant then goes on, unsurprisingly in greater detail, to explain his/her gripes with an allegedly unfair promotion system.
Well, you could have knocked me down with a feather! Some bloke gets passed over for the promotion he thinks he deserved and decides to make anonymous, scurrilous allegations online knowing that he'll get away with it.
In response HMRC says that they are very concerned about the allegations and ask him to get in touch. Will he? Three guesses (hint - you won't need 2 and 3).
As I have been repeating on here for years now there are genuine and serious problems within HMRC which require debate and resolution. Utter cr*p like the Glassdoor review and the frequent postings of Mr "HMRC are trying to kill me and my family" do nothing but muddy the waters and act as easy to dismiss distractions.
Errrr many people getting overlooked for promotion, they don't then make up sexual assault allegations.
DeleteI believe the allegations of sexual assault at HMRC are credible.
7 March @16:20
DeleteYou sound nice...diminishing the claims of someone brave enough to raise the alarm on bullying, misogyny and assaults on women by employees of HMRC...comments typed the day before International Women's Day...how so very brave...a paid for shill shamelessly collecting taxpayers money
@16:20 A little man speaks... 🤡
DeleteWhy would the person on Glassdoor reveal who they are. They would get same response as you . Bitter at not getting promotion. Can you imagine? There is no privacy in HMRC their name would reach every office in seconds
DeleteMy last post was blocked by "an error has occured" message and I'm not going through it all again, but briefly:
Deletewhen our SO inappropriately groped a female colleague in the pub after a Christmas meal we all encouraged and supported her complaint with witness statements and evidence to the investigating team. He was demoted and sent another office. Senior management weren't too happy but there was nothing they could do about it. So despite being a "paid for shill" and a "little man" I actually DID SOMETHING rather than typing away on a website because me and my colleagues possessed a backbone and a bit of moral fibre.
And can we once and for all stop this absurd notion that the Glassdoor poster is brave. He has anonymously posted hugely vague allegations with no dates, locations or other meaningful information.
Maybe he didn't have any witnesses who would come forward
DeleteAs he has alleged 'assaults' on female colleagues I assumed that he would have been a witness. He could have come forward himself. But he has apparently chosen not to. Rather post anonymously on a site seen by few.
Delete"Demoted and sent to another office"?
DeleteGroping is a serious sexual offence, the HMRC offender should have been sacked and sent to prison...you did nothing bold allowing him to get off extremely lightly....oh the irony, and here you are typing about it...
Not desperately bright are you? We did not allow him to "get off extremely lightly". The victim did not want the trauma of a criminal trial and the potentially vile cross-examination she would have been subjected to. I can understand that.
DeleteThe punishment was decided by the department, not the accuser or witnesses.
We did do something bold and I am happy to type about it.
You just carry on typing about doing sweet FA.
@12:15 Calm down...the truth has certainly triggered you, dimwit...
DeleteYou can't handle the truth.
DeleteI am supremely calm and not in the slightest triggered.
Perhaps you would like to tell us all about the things you have done to stop the problems in HMRC. Shouldn't take you long.
Comment above when l was bullied and verbally abused in HMRC office there were loads of witnesses sitting around me. No headphones on they heard every word laughed along. The ones that didn't knew it was wrong. No one stuck up for me
DeleteThey all witnessed abuse
Then your colleagues were lacking in backbone and moral fibre. Likely the same as the Glassdoor poster.
DeleteDid they really laugh at verbal abuse?
Yes verbal sexual abuse from my direct boss that wrote promotion reports. They would have sold their granny for promotion. Honestly l wish you and your friends had been on my team. I have brothers who were horrified that this could happen by your boss. He used to be my friend so it started of as banter then turned sexual.
DeleteI am genuinely sad that this happened to you. The union, which I know is pretty useless, should at least have pointed you in the right direction re complaints procedures.
DeleteAs a trainee union rep in the 80s one of the first thing I was taught was that local management are terrified of complaints reaching national level and having to justify their actions. I suspect the same applies today to some degree.
Re my comment above l asked him politely to stop cos he encouraged new starts to join in. He wouldn't told me another person was harassing me aswell. I said you and my boss l thought you were my friend.He stood up and shouted a sexual remark at me giggle gillle from the cowards
DeleteThank you for replying l really do appreciate it. This happened me 1988 to 1990 relentless. I use to go bright red. He wrote on my report that l got flustered easily. Christ l thought at times l was going to have a heart attack. What hurt the most was my so called friends laughing
DeleteAnd so on and so on. You will never win against HMRC bullies. Using not get promoted etc to defend the claim.
ReplyDeleteExactly. The person who revealed this on Glassdoor knows the mentality of HMRC.Do you think a bullying organisation is going to side with him get real. There is zero confidentiality in HMRC when l worked there the sick andedical records say in a corner open viewing for everyone and anyone to see
ReplyDeleteSpot on. We may be in the 21st century, but heaven forbid you suffer with ill mental health or work-related stress. The thugs will soon spread it around and use it as a stick to beat you with. Bigotry is alive and well in HMRC.
DeleteA new guy started in my work he had recovered from a brain tumour. Ammunition for this army of abusers. When he made a mistake like any new start one BIG man in the wee picture . Removed the brain and left the tumour. I grabbed my bag and coat and left.Next day one said to me l didn't know about him l said YES you did
DeleteA guy was off with a breakdown. My boss said he is in the hospital with padded wallpaper.Christ God love anyone with mental health.They probably caused it in the first place
DeleteMy husband suffered a mental breakdown after more than a year of bullying when he worked for HMRC. It was heart-breaking seeing him in such a state and it ruined his health for good. Adding insult to injury, a Grade 6 who was protecting management bullies, wrote an email to HR, which we have a copy of following a Subject Access Request, mocking the very ill mental health his gang had caused. Gaslighting cretin. I asked for a meeting with him - I would love to see the coward tremble - but it was ignored
DeleteI had the same experience as your husband so l can empathize. You can't snap out of the terrible depression and anxiety. It's so unfair because you don't want the people you love to suffer watching the effect it has. I wish you both all the best Thanks for sharing x
DeleteThe weird, twisted world of HMRC's bullying culture means its employees are far more likely to be hated by their own colleagues than they are by taxpayers
ReplyDeleteHow I didn't beat the shit out of the people who bullied me when I worked at HMRC is incredible, I had to exercise considerable constraint.
ReplyDeleteTell me about it. They say Karma will get them and it has with a lot. Unfortunately that's never made me feel any better.l am still angry with myself for NOT doing more to stop it. But so many of them and then you would have been ostracized
DeleteThe toxic atmosphere at HMRC is built around the abuse of power - the HMRC bullies don't behave like that down the pub because they know they'd have the crap kicked right out of them...but at HMRC, if they're the grade above, they know, assuming you want to keep your job, that you won't be able to hit them, but they also know they will be believed - and you won't be - should you lodge a grievance. Vile specimens.
DeleteSpot on l was verbally abused by my direct boss who checked everyone's work and recommended people for promotion. He encouraged everyone to join in and they did. I asked him to stop and he replied so and so does it aswell. I said l thought you were my friend. He then stood up and said if that's all is there anything else you would like to give me. They all laughed
DeleteI was an HO. My SO female manager made cruel jokes in a meeting with me and her female Grade 7 manager, including innuendo about the size of my private parts. For context, the meeting was to discuss injuries suffered at work. Upon me leaving the meeting room, she was literally laughing out loud and the sheep-like Grade 7 joined in. HMRC offices are such a vile, disgusting place to work, with some real lowlifes in management positions.
DeleteShocking ! I hope you have escaped the hellhole that is HMRC
DeleteSome very astute observations above from people who, like me, clearly have first hand experience of working at HMRC.
ReplyDeleteStaff in the department are fearful of speaking up about the toxic culture of bullying.
There must be new processes put in place to protect HMRC whistleblowers whose courage will in turn protect colleagues and the general taxpaying public from potentially dangerous HMRC employees who have gone rogue.
Thank you for bringing this to light. I was the victim of abuse too. It's chilling to think this is still happening t
ReplyDeletein HMRC, the largest government department. My thoughts and prayers are with all of the victims, and I live in eternal hope that the perpetrators will be brought to justice.
The comments on this article, each one from people re-living painful memories of their experiences of abuse at HMRC, are absolutely appalling.
ReplyDeleteHMRC shouldn't be covering up for bullies. And their staff responsible for committing sexual offences & other crimes should be locked up not sent to work at another HMRC office. I despair, is the rule of law crumbling?
You're right. It's absolutely appalling.
DeleteYou do something about it and we'll all be right behind you.
It's all true. The disrespect is awful. Worked there for over 20 years.l couldn't even write anonymously the things l witnessed and was subjected to.That guy who wrote on Glassdoor was very brave. He knew this was only way to avoid a cover up by HMRC
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry but it simply isn't true that the poster on Glassdoor is very brave. He has made anonymously accusations so vague and non-specific that even if they are true and HMRC were inclined to do something about it they couldn't.
DeleteI await your explanation as to how this avoids a cover up.
What l meant was he knew the perpetrators would not be brought to book. He was highlighting it putting it out in domain. Its worked people are commentating on their own misery caused by HMRC. Anyone working in HMRC as. fraud investagator will be watched
ReplyDeleteAll fraud investigators at HMRC will be suspected of the truth telling, and the thugs in charge will look to identify and punish the brave soul. Utter scumbags the management are
DeleteIf he was more specific , or referred any criminal activity to the police, then maybe the perpetrators would be brought to book.
DeleteIt hasn't "worked" because people are only repeating the same vague accusations that they have been making on here for the past ten years. With absolutely no end product.
I would also be most interested to know why you can't write about the things you witnessed or were subjects to, even anonymously.
Sorry but this is the same old endless BS. Something awful has happened but I can't say what, where, when, who to or who by. Surely you can see that this lacks any credibility.
Can l just ask
DeleteHave you ever worked for Inland Revenue/HMRC? Most people would agree with you unless they worked for them
Are the allegations of sexual assault credible? I've certainly seen nothing that causes me to doubt them.
DeleteWe had a male SO in our VAT office who had a predilection for groping junior females at parties (a.k.a sexual assault). People just turned a blind eye to his offending. When our office shut down, he somehow got employed as the VAT Manager at a local accountancy firm. Horrible little man
Most of the vile adults l worked with pushed successfully up the ranks untouchable.HMRC behaviour would NEVER be allowed in most workplaces. When l was verbally abused by my direct boss l told family friends because they noticed a change in me. Everyone's advice report him to boss. Are you crazy boss is worse
DeleteWhen you say "people just turned a blind eye" that presumably includes yourself.
DeleteCare to explain why?
Just another 'do nothing' whiner on here.
You should have worked in our HMRC office.A vile AO who was seriously mentally disordered used to suddenly throw a glass of water over people. Think HMRC gave her a huge payoff to leave - rumoured £60000+. Never mind it's only taxpayers money
DeleteThe AO that you mention does indeed seem to have had a mental disorder. If the conditions was diagnosed then she should have been given sick leave until treated. If it could not be effectively treated then she should have received an ill-health retirement.
DeleteIf she didn't have a mental disorder then she should have been dismissed for assaulting colleagues.
In the long-term the rumoured payoff would probably work out cheaper than the ill-health retirement.
@15:10 I don't think she should have received any payment. The horrible behaviour of a significant number of scumbags at HMRC shouldn't be rewarded with taxpayers money.
Delete@08:14 She probably didn't receive any payment. The word "rumoured" is crucial here.
DeleteEx gratia payments when somebody leaves 'under a cloud' are usually based on the likelihood of the department losing an Employment Tribunal, so 60 grand sounds way over the top, assuming she got anything at all.
I am currently going through bullying and abuse from HMRC. Has anyone got any advice about what I should do? I'm frightened that if I make a formal grievance they will come for me and make me another victim. I moved here from a good career because they promised a healthier working life, when it's actually like hell and I'm drowning in depression. Thank you
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately your post creates a number of questions as you do not describe the "bullying and abuse" and who it's coming from. If you are genuinely being bullied and are in the union then insist that they take your case up formally. If your local rep or branch can't be bothered, make a complaint to union HQ about failure to represent you and request a refund of your subs if nothing happens. That should get a reaction.
DeleteIf you're not in the union then make a formal grievance anyway. You might be marked down as a trouble maker but management are likely to be wary of you - they don't like having to formally justify their actions.
But there is, of course, a more sensible alternative. If your working life is genuinely like hell and you are genuinely drowning in depression then GET OUT. NOW.
No job is worth risking your health for and if you had a good career elsewhere then you'll get another job.
Good luck.
My advice aswell as other comments GET OUT asap. Bullying is horrendous l worked for HMRC.You can't win ones in authority all stick together. If you are feeling down you don't need stress of fighting for justice. Please look for a other job.
DeleteAssuming the opportunity to have a robust 'conversation' in the car park isn't on the table, then I'd agree with the above comments. You should look to get out as soon as you can. But please do consult a good solicitor. Don't let the cowardly bar stewards just get away with it.
DeleteThey sound like a bunch of criminals. Shocked.
ReplyDeleteI just want to put this out here. Yes go on about winning on here etc. let make this very very clear. I did complain directly to my boss who wrote my work reports. I did go to personal. I did go to management. I did appeal to friends who joined in with verbal abuse.I didn't just vent on here. I went to HMRC welfare. I asked for transfer. The HMRC broke my spirit I left on sick after a very personal tradegy which l didn't tell them about because they would have thrived on it. Writing this now lve nothing to gain other than tell HMRC unfortunates to GET OUT
ReplyDeleteExactly all the why didn't you do this do that tell this one personal etc. Did it got the tee shirt. There is Zero privacy in HMRC if you are sick long term wouldn't matter if you were dying. What's wrong.Medical sick records sit or did in plain view. Gossip exactly like Kate Middleton We don't give a flying F but we want to onow
ReplyDelete@23:30 You should try posting that again. Next time in understandable English. When you're sober.
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